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{{Lafc|username=Stckler|ts=01:37, 4 July 2025|draft=Draft:Lajos_Stockler}}

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despite having sourced and included many numerous published references I am continuing to struggle with satisfying he editors requirements of the notability evidence requirements. The purpose of setting up this Wikipedia page is for other researchers across Australia and Hungary to contribute towards in establishing a historical record of Stockler Lajos and build that body of work for someone being lost to history. He was considered a hero in Hungary, for his efforts in saving many thousands of Jews during the holocaust and he was robbed of that historical recognition through show trials, torture and false imprisonment. I don't understand the editors rejection of him having received one of Hungary's most prestigious awards as not meeting the criteria of WP:ANYBIO #1. This award was given to him by the prime minister and documented in the Official Hungarian Gazette. He was also falsely arrested and prosecuted for the alleged murder of Raoul Wallenberg one of histories most notable figures in the Hungarian holocaust. I feel im in a catch 22 position that without the aid of other contributors, providing rare research contributions etc, i will never meet the threshold being sought. It seems quite inconsistent with a number of others referenced within the draft, who have secured wikipedia articles. please help?? [[User:Stckler|Stckler]] ([[User talk:Stckler|talk]]) 01:37, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

despite having sourced and included many numerous published references I am continuing to struggle with satisfying he editors requirements of the notability evidence requirements. The purpose of setting up this Wikipedia page is for other researchers across Australia and Hungary to contribute towards in establishing a historical record of Stockler Lajos and build that body of work for someone being lost to history. He was considered a hero in Hungary, for his efforts in saving many thousands of Jews during the holocaust and he was robbed of that historical recognition through show trials, torture and false imprisonment. I don't understand the editors rejection of him having received one of Hungary's most prestigious awards as not meeting the criteria of WP:ANYBIO #1. This award was given to him by the prime minister and documented in the Official Hungarian Gazette. He was also falsely arrested and prosecuted for the alleged murder of Raoul Wallenberg one of histories most notable figures in the Hungarian holocaust. I feel im in a catch 22 position that without the aid of other contributors, providing rare research contributions etc, i will never meet the threshold being sought. It seems quite inconsistent with a number of others referenced within the draft, who have secured wikipedia articles. please help?? [[User:Stckler|Stckler]] ([[User talk:Stckler|talk]]) 01:37, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[User:Stckler|Stckler]], I think your biggest problem at the moment is that Wikipedia articles must summarize secondary sources (and these sources must meet the triple criteria in [[WP:42]]) and it sounds like you may be having trouble finding those. Wikipedia is not a good place to draw attention to a subject - it's where articles are written after the subject is well-known enough to have been written about in lots of other places already. It sounds like he did some remarkable things in his life - are there no books about him, or in-depth newspaper articles, or anything along those lines?

:It's entirely possible that other subjects referenced in the draft should not have Wikipedia articles; a huge number of articles were created in Wikipedia's infancy and don't meet our current standards. Unfortunately we don't have enough people to find and improve them or delete them, so we have to wait until someone stumbles across such an article and alerts active editors to the situation. If you think you've found any of those articles, we would be very pleased to know about it so we can take action. [[User:Meadowlark|Meadowlark]] ([[User talk:Meadowlark|talk]]) 15:41, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

== 03:21, 4 July 2025 review of submission by Filmyguy34 ==

== 03:21, 4 July 2025 review of submission by Filmyguy34 ==