Wikipedia talk:Verifiability - Wikipedia - Recent changes [en]

::* And if someone does issue a CHALLENGE, then the uncited material is allowed to be removed.

::* And if someone does issue a CHALLENGE, then the uncited material is allowed to be removed.

::However – and this is more important for the logical basis of the policy, rather than for the actions in the article – that material is allowed to be removed because it is uncited ''and challenged'' material, not solely because it is uncited. Since one way to issue a CHALLENGE is to remove the uncited material (e.g., with an edit summary that says you think it's wrong), this can all happen in a single edit, but it's not just "no citation, therefore remove". [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 18:57, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

::However – and this is more important for the logical basis of the policy, rather than for the actions in the article – that material is allowed to be removed because it is uncited ''and challenged'' material, not solely because it is uncited. Since one way to issue a CHALLENGE is to remove the uncited material (e.g., with an edit summary that says you think it's wrong), this can all happen in a single edit, but it's not just "no citation, therefore remove". [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 18:57, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

:::I agree that some material doesn't need an inline citation. Perhaps I'm misinterpreting what "Any material that needs an inline citation but does not have one may be removed" applies to.

:::I'm reading the following as a single unit:

:::::All material in Wikipedia mainspace, including everything in articles, lists, and captions, must be verifiable. Additionally, four types of information must be accompanied by an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the material:

:::::* direct quotations,

:::::* material whose verifiability has been challenged,

:::::* material whose verifiability is likely to be challenged, and

:::::* contentious material about living and recently deceased persons.

:::::Any material that needs an inline citation but does not have one may be removed. Please immediately remove contentious material about living people (or existing groups) that is unsourced or poorly sourced.

:::Seems to me that if those four kinds of material "''must'' be accompanied by an inline citation", then if they lack said citation, the material ''must'' be removed (or must have a citation added by whoever notices that it's uncited). If "Any material that needs an inline citation but does not have one may be removed" is not intended to be read in the context of the bulleted list immediately above it (i.e., if "Any material that needs an inline citation but does not have one..." is meant to include a wider variety of material than the bulleted list), then I suggest that it be moved, perhaps placing right after after "All material in Wikipedia mainspace, including everything in articles, lists, and captions, must be verifiable." [[User:FactOrOpinion|FactOrOpinion]] ([[User talk:FactOrOpinion|talk]]) 19:48, 16 July 2025 (UTC)