Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Marvel Comics teams and organizations - Wikipedia - Recent changes [en]

*:::Or, to answer more directly, yes, the nomination contains a ''reference'' to a policy. But it does not contain a rationale ''why'' this should apply here which is intelligible to me. And if it is not clear to me, then most likely "''Clear'' failure", i.e. not ''needing'' further explanation, is not the case. [[User:Daranios|Daranios]] ([[User talk:Daranios|talk]]) 09:52, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

*:::Or, to answer more directly, yes, the nomination contains a ''reference'' to a policy. But it does not contain a rationale ''why'' this should apply here which is intelligible to me. And if it is not clear to me, then most likely "''Clear'' failure", i.e. not ''needing'' further explanation, is not the case. [[User:Daranios|Daranios]] ([[User talk:Daranios|talk]]) 09:52, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

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:'''Keep, but with stipulations.''' Per my BEFORE I decided to carry out since the nom did not specify if they did one, I found [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Our_Superheroes_Ourselves/Jh4rRiZQRvIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22Marvel%22+%2B+%22teams%22+-wikipedia&pg=PA64&printsec=frontcover one strong hit] from a PHD professor, and [https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-031-20127-1_8 another good one] on the concept of female superhero teams (Requires Springer access). At a glance there seemed to be other hits of varying sizes and scope, but a lot of it was focused on the FF, Avengers, or X-Men. I'd say there's enough for a "teams" list, but my main issue lies in the other half.

:I have to agree that the list is definitely [[Wikipedia:Coatrack articles|COATRACK]]-esque. What defines a "team" or an "organization" that they should be discussed together? Something like [[Advanced Idea Mechanics]] or [[S.H.I.E.L.D.]] are organizations, but they are not "teams" like the sources I've seen seem to define the Avengers or FF, and don't seem to have any similarities beyond having multiple people in one place. I additionally found no strong SIGCOV hits for "organizations" as a subject, barring specific organizations like [[Hydra (comics)|Hydra]] or SHIELD which have individual analysis.

:I feel this list needs to be ironed down to just "teams", but I do not feel like this list needs to be deleted and has a valid case for staying. I wouldn't be opposed to a [[Wikipedia:TNT]] to make this focus only on the individual "teams", removing any of these organizations since they don't really have connections. I'd advise the nom to take a look through the individual groups and try cleaning those up though, since I doubt many of them are notable, and it would help this list since it would determine what ''needs'' to be mentioned here and what could be reasonably discussed in another article. Magneton Considerer: '''[[User:Pokelego999|Pokelego999]]''' ([[User Talk:Pokelego999|Talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Pokelego999|Contribs]]) 19:48, 16 July 2025 (UTC)