Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deanne Panday (2nd nomination) - Wikipedia - Recent changes [en]

*:This proves the article fails [[wp:GNG]] and [[Wp:SIGCOV]] both. [[User:Zuck28|Zuck28]] ([[User talk:Zuck28|talk]]) 15:09, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

*:This proves the article fails [[wp:GNG]] and [[Wp:SIGCOV]] both. [[User:Zuck28|Zuck28]] ([[User talk:Zuck28|talk]]) 15:09, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

*::Respectfully, I did participate in the previous AfD, but regardless, notability is determined based on policy and the quality of sources, not continuity of participants. Regarding the sources: while it's fair to assess for promotional tone or disclaimers, dismissing all coverage as non-notable misapplies [[WP:GNG]] and [[WP:SIGCOV]]. The DNA India article, which is over 300 words, discusses her career, influence, and clientele. The absence of an author byline does not disqualify its reliability or editorial status, as many editorial articles are unsigned unless marked as sponsored. As for the Business Standard article, it was written by journalist Asmita Aggarwal (credited by name), so the claim that it lacks one is factually incorrect. The article engages directly with her book and fitness philosophy, not simply as a product plug but in a substantive profile format. The NDTV piece, while it includes Salman Khan, is centered around Deanne Panday’s book launch and includes her quotes and ideas this qualifies as non-trivial coverage. Similarly, the Hindustan Times and Mid-Day articles offer independent mentions. Per WP:GNG, notability is assessed holistically. If depth in any one source is limited, multiple independent sources may be considered collectively. In addition to the previously mentioned sources, here are more in-depth, independent articles that further support her notability and provide substantial coverage suitable for expanding the article; {{URL|https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/saiyaara-star-ahaan-pandays-mother-best-selling-fitness-author-deanne-spills-secrets-to-be-fit-at-any-age-shares-guide-to-eating-clean/articleshow/122775715.cms|Economic Times}}, {{URL|https://www.indiatoday.in/lifestyle/health/story/deanne-panday-at-india-today-conclave-east-2019-at-50-i-am-the-fittest-i-have-ever-been-1625937-2019-12-06|India Today}}, {{URL|https://www.hindustantimes.com/fitness/salman-khan-s-trainer-deanne-panday-is-super-fit-this-is-her-secret/story-P487YK9QlqhAFRtbSFJM3H.html|HT}}, {{URL|https://indianexpress.com/article/lifestyle/life-style/deanne-panday-fitness-healthy-living-7171526/|Indian Express}}, {{URL|https://www.hindustantimes.com/brunch/deanne-panday-is-putting-her-fittest-foot-forward-at-50-here-is-how-you-can-too/story-HatQGlE4VTzmEw5zp6ceSO.html|HT}}. In my view, these sources align with the requirements under [[WP:GNG]] and provide further opportunity to expand the article. [[User:GSS|<span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold;font-size:16px;color:hsl(205, 98%, 55%);">GSS</span>]]&#x202F;[[User talk:GSS|^&#128172;]] 16:12, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

*::Respectfully, I did participate in the previous AfD, but regardless, notability is determined based on policy and the quality of sources, not continuity of participants. Regarding the sources: while it's fair to assess for promotional tone or disclaimers, dismissing all coverage as non-notable misapplies [[WP:GNG]] and [[WP:SIGCOV]]. The DNA India article, which is over 300 words, discusses her career, influence, and clientele. The absence of an author byline does not disqualify its reliability or editorial status, as many editorial articles are unsigned unless marked as sponsored. As for the Business Standard article, it was written by journalist Asmita Aggarwal (credited by name), so the claim that it lacks one is factually incorrect. The article engages directly with her book and fitness philosophy, not simply as a product plug but in a substantive profile format. The NDTV piece, while it includes Salman Khan, is centered around Deanne Panday’s book launch and includes her quotes and ideas this qualifies as non-trivial coverage. Similarly, the Hindustan Times and Mid-Day articles offer independent mentions. Per WP:GNG, notability is assessed holistically. If depth in any one source is limited, multiple independent sources may be considered collectively. In addition to the previously mentioned sources, here are more in-depth, independent articles that further support her notability and provide substantial coverage suitable for expanding the article; {{URL|https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/saiyaara-star-ahaan-pandays-mother-best-selling-fitness-author-deanne-spills-secrets-to-be-fit-at-any-age-shares-guide-to-eating-clean/articleshow/122775715.cms|Economic Times}}, {{URL|https://www.indiatoday.in/lifestyle/health/story/deanne-panday-at-india-today-conclave-east-2019-at-50-i-am-the-fittest-i-have-ever-been-1625937-2019-12-06|India Today}}, {{URL|https://www.hindustantimes.com/fitness/salman-khan-s-trainer-deanne-panday-is-super-fit-this-is-her-secret/story-P487YK9QlqhAFRtbSFJM3H.html|HT}}, {{URL|https://indianexpress.com/article/lifestyle/life-style/deanne-panday-fitness-healthy-living-7171526/|Indian Express}}, {{URL|https://www.hindustantimes.com/brunch/deanne-panday-is-putting-her-fittest-foot-forward-at-50-here-is-how-you-can-too/story-HatQGlE4VTzmEw5zp6ceSO.html|HT}}. In my view, these sources align with the requirements under [[WP:GNG]] and provide further opportunity to expand the article. [[User:GSS|<span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold;font-size:16px;color:hsl(205, 98%, 55%);">GSS</span>]]&#x202F;[[User talk:GSS|^&#128172;]] 16:12, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

*:::I would add that the Salman Khan reference is not a counter argument but perhaps the opposite, as it would ultimately demonstrate her importance as celebrities' fitness/well-being coach (as claimed), and thus the importance of keeping the article. [[User:Metamentalist|Metamentalist]] ([[User talk:Metamentalist|talk]]) 13:14, 20 July 2025 (UTC)