Statement by Lewisguile
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In any case, the broader topic has been raised in a high profile alt-right publication by a self-described banned WP editor, and gets lots of edit attempts in the subject area whenever it hits the headlines (including in related articles, such as about UK politicians). Clarity on this issue would be helpful. In the last AfD within the topic, a number of editors with <500 edits added their !votes with very similar wording to that used by the magazine article in question. Some of those editors are also responding to other (non-formal discussion) threads with the same "oppose" wording, suggesting they don't really know what they're doing besides objecting. See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Grooming_gangs_scandal#c-Historyexpert2-20250704025000-LeChatiliers_Pupper-20250703140900 here] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Grooming_gangs_scandal#c-Tamsier-20250704083900-LeChatiliers_Pupper-20250703140900 here]. |
In any case, the broader topic has been raised in a high profile alt-right publication by a self-described banned WP editor, and gets lots of edit attempts in the subject area whenever it hits the headlines (including in related articles, such as about UK politicians). Clarity on this issue would be helpful. In the last AfD within the topic, a number of editors with <500 edits added their !votes with very similar wording to that used by the magazine article in question. Some of those editors are also responding to other (non-formal discussion) threads with the same "oppose" wording, suggesting they don't really know what they're doing besides objecting. See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Grooming_gangs_scandal#c-Historyexpert2-20250704025000-LeChatiliers_Pupper-20250703140900 here] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Grooming_gangs_scandal#c-Tamsier-20250704083900-LeChatiliers_Pupper-20250703140900 here]. |
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Previously, this subject was part of another "main" article that was merged into [[Child sexual abuse in the United Kingdom]], after several debates about naming ("Muslim grooming gangs in the United Kingdom" was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Muslim_grooming_gangs_in_the_United_Kingdom&diff=1254782344&oldid=1249966223 redirected] to "Grooming gang moral panic in the United Kingdom", before [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grooming_gang_moral_panic_in_the_United_Kingdom&diff=prev&oldid=1254629517 the merge]). The last version of the main article had page protection, but because "Grooming gangs scandal" is a new article on the same topic, the PP hasn't been carried forward. This has potentially contributed to the issues at hand, but reinstating PP would, IMO, be a quick fix in the interim, as it will resolve most of the concerns about possible canvassing, tendentious editing, SPAs, etc. It may be that this can only be enacted after the ongoing RM on the page, since some people have already !voted, and that would probably allay complaints that this was done to skew the results (although there is an [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Grooming_gangs_scandal#c-Lewisguile-20250701082900-Scope/title ongoing discussion] above the RM which is likely more constructive, and is already reaching consensus per [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/1298489519/1298489658 here], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/1298490672/1298490749 here], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/1298517781/1298517917 here], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/1298567926/1298568558 here], and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/1298604844/1298606451 here], so the RM is less essential anyway).[[User:Lewisguile|Lewisguile]] ([[User talk:Lewisguile|talk]]) 13:54, 4 July 2025 (UTC) |
Previously, this subject was part of another "main" article that was merged into [[Child sexual abuse in the United Kingdom]], after several debates about naming ("Muslim grooming gangs in the United Kingdom" was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Muslim_grooming_gangs_in_the_United_Kingdom&diff=1254782344&oldid=1249966223 redirected] to "Grooming gang moral panic in the United Kingdom", before [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grooming_gang_moral_panic_in_the_United_Kingdom&diff=prev&oldid=1254629517 the merge]). The last version of the main article had page protection, but because "Grooming gangs scandal" is a new article on the same topic, it hasn't been carried forward. This has potentially contributed to the issues at hand, but reinstating PP would, IMO, be a quick fix in the interim, as it will resolve most of the concerns about possible canvassing, tendentious editing, SPAs, etc. It may be that this can only be enacted after the ongoing RM on the page, since some people have already !voted, and that would probably allay complaints that this was done to skew the results (although there is an [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Grooming_gangs_scandal#c-Lewisguile-20250701082900-Scope/title ongoing discussion] above the RM which is likely more constructive, and is already reaching consensus per [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/1298489519/1298489658 here], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/1298490672/1298490749 here], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/1298517781/1298517917 here], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/1298567926/1298568558 here], and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/1298604844/1298606451 here], so the RM is less essential anyway).[[User:Lewisguile|Lewisguile]] ([[User talk:Lewisguile|talk]]) 13:54, 4 July 2025 (UTC) |
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