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[td]::::::So you are saying the names of criminals shouldn't be put in bold because they are criminal? But [[Hitler]] and [[Stalin]] have their names in bold too, and nobody seems to mind that. If you think having your name in bold in Wikipedia is an honour, rest assured: it is not. [[User:Gawaon|Gawaon]] ([[User talk:Gawaon|talk]]) 10:30, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]::::I understand your (Trypto) position of friction with BLP, but I disagree with its relevancy. That seems to be an overly broad reading of BLP. We use bold text for page titles, alternate titles, and redirects throughout the site. To say that {{tq|the font draws attention to the names, and readers who did not arrive at the page via the redirect might understandably wonder why we are highlighting those names}} could be said about any text bolded under BOLDREDIRECT, so using it in some instances but not others is inconsistent. We have [[Wikipedia:Consistency]] that exists in other areas of MOS, so it makes more sense to equally apply BOLDREDIRECT in all cases rather than just some due to some external (and arbitrary) sensitivity. [[User:Butlerblog|<span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="color:#333366;">Butler</span><span style="font-style:italic;color:#D2B48C;">Blog</span></span>]] ([[User talk:Butlerblog|talk]]) 12:56, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[/td]
[td]::::I understand your (Trypto) position of friction with BLP, but I disagree with its relevancy. That seems to be an overly broad reading of BLP. We use bold text for page titles, alternate titles, and redirects throughout the site. To say that {{tq|the font draws attention to the names, and readers who did not arrive at the page via the redirect might understandably wonder why we are highlighting those names}} could be said about any text bolded under BOLDREDIRECT, so using it in some instances but not others is inconsistent. We have [[Wikipedia:Consistency]] that exists in other areas of MOS, so it makes more sense to equally apply BOLDREDIRECT in all cases rather than just some due to some external (and arbitrary) sensitivity. [[User:Butlerblog|<span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="color:#333366;">Butler</span><span style="font-style:italic;color:#D2B48C;">Blog</span></span>]] ([[User talk:Butlerblog|talk]]) 12:56, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]:::::Fair enough, and this isn't a hill I want to die on. But I also think consistency only gets us so far. The reason [[WP:IAR]] has been settled consensus for so long is that we value (or ''should'' value) human judgment over rigid rules. And to respond to the comment above about Hitler and Stalin, I don't see this as being about "bad people" ''per se''. For me it's more about [[WP:NOTPUBLICFIGURE]]s, which Hitler and Stalin obviously are not. For private persons, and especially non-notable victims of crime, I'd prefer to do less in the way of drawing attention to them. But again, this is a battle I'm not going to fight. --[[User:Tryptofish|Tryptofish]] ([[User talk:Tryptofish|talk]]) 19:03, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[/td]
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[td]::::::So you are saying the names of criminals shouldn't be put in bold because they are criminal? But [[Hitler]] and [[Stalin]] have their names in bold too, and nobody seems to mind that. If you think having your name in bold in Wikipedia is an honour, rest assured: it is not. [[User:Gawaon|Gawaon]] ([[User talk:Gawaon|talk]]) 10:30, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[/td]Revision as of 19:03, 30 August 2025
[/td][td]::::::So you are saying the names of criminals shouldn't be put in bold because they are criminal? But [[Hitler]] and [[Stalin]] have their names in bold too, and nobody seems to mind that. If you think having your name in bold in Wikipedia is an honour, rest assured: it is not. [[User:Gawaon|Gawaon]] ([[User talk:Gawaon|talk]]) 10:30, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]::::I understand your (Trypto) position of friction with BLP, but I disagree with its relevancy. That seems to be an overly broad reading of BLP. We use bold text for page titles, alternate titles, and redirects throughout the site. To say that {{tq|the font draws attention to the names, and readers who did not arrive at the page via the redirect might understandably wonder why we are highlighting those names}} could be said about any text bolded under BOLDREDIRECT, so using it in some instances but not others is inconsistent. We have [[Wikipedia:Consistency]] that exists in other areas of MOS, so it makes more sense to equally apply BOLDREDIRECT in all cases rather than just some due to some external (and arbitrary) sensitivity. [[User:Butlerblog|<span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="color:#333366;">Butler</span><span style="font-style:italic;color:#D2B48C;">Blog</span></span>]] ([[User talk:Butlerblog|talk]]) 12:56, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[/td]
[td]::::I understand your (Trypto) position of friction with BLP, but I disagree with its relevancy. That seems to be an overly broad reading of BLP. We use bold text for page titles, alternate titles, and redirects throughout the site. To say that {{tq|the font draws attention to the names, and readers who did not arrive at the page via the redirect might understandably wonder why we are highlighting those names}} could be said about any text bolded under BOLDREDIRECT, so using it in some instances but not others is inconsistent. We have [[Wikipedia:Consistency]] that exists in other areas of MOS, so it makes more sense to equally apply BOLDREDIRECT in all cases rather than just some due to some external (and arbitrary) sensitivity. [[User:Butlerblog|<span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="color:#333366;">Butler</span><span style="font-style:italic;color:#D2B48C;">Blog</span></span>]] ([[User talk:Butlerblog|talk]]) 12:56, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]:::::Fair enough, and this isn't a hill I want to die on. But I also think consistency only gets us so far. The reason [[WP:IAR]] has been settled consensus for so long is that we value (or ''should'' value) human judgment over rigid rules. And to respond to the comment above about Hitler and Stalin, I don't see this as being about "bad people" ''per se''. For me it's more about [[WP:NOTPUBLICFIGURE]]s, which Hitler and Stalin obviously are not. For private persons, and especially non-notable victims of crime, I'd prefer to do less in the way of drawing attention to them. But again, this is a battle I'm not going to fight. --[[User:Tryptofish|Tryptofish]] ([[User talk:Tryptofish|talk]]) 19:03, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[/td]
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