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[[User:Rafaelthegreat|Rafaelthegreat]] - I see that you manually added this to your talk page. If you are interested in receiving this automatically, please see [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors this page] for additional details. [[User:Tiggerjay|<span style='color

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[[User:Rafaelthegreat|Rafaelthegreat]] - I see that you manually added this to your talk page. If you are interested in receiving this automatically, please see [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors this page] for additional details. [[User:Tiggerjay|<span style='color

arkOrange'>'''Tigger''''''Jay''']] [[User talk:Tiggerjay|<span style="font-size:85%;color

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[[User:Tiggerjay|Tiggerjay]] I did this because I copied these text from [[User:Rafaelthegreat/news]] as my news space for news but I changed my mind and wanted it here so I copied the text from there and added it here. Then I deleted that page. ~[[User:Rafaelthegreat|'''''Rafael''''']] '''{{tq|(He, him) • [[User talk:Rafaelthegreat|Talk]] • [[User:Rafaelthegreat/Guestbook|Guestbook]] • [[User:Rafaelthegreat/projects|Projects]]}}''' 22:16, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[/td]
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[[User:Tiggerjay|Tiggerjay]] I did this because I copied these text from [[User:Rafaelthegreat/news]] as my news space for news but I changed my mind and wanted it here so I copied the text from there and added it here. Then I deleted that page. ~[[User:Rafaelthegreat|'''''Rafael''''']] '''{{tq|(He, him) • [[User talk:Rafaelthegreat|Talk]] • [[User:Rafaelthegreat/Guestbook|Guestbook]] • [[User:Rafaelthegreat/projects|Projects]]}}''' 22:16, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]== noping ==[/td] [td][/td] [td]Hi, when dealing with such accounts it is best not too notify them by linking them as they sometimes just turn up spamming their innocence. I already found one other account I think is linked so I wanted a CU check. Use {{tl|noping}} if you want to link accounts with notification. Oh and see the SPI [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sherazifarhan|here]]. Cheers [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic|talk]]) 15:12, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td][/td] [td]

[[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ok got it. (I just like pinging sorry) ~[[User:Rafaelthegreat|'''''Rafael''''']] '''{{tq|(He, him) • [[User talk:Rafaelthegreat|Talk]] • [[User:Rafaelthegreat/Guestbook|Guestbook]] • [[User:Rafaelthegreat/projects|Projects]]}}''' 15:38, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td][/td] [td]== Speedy deletion declined: [[Glory Goal FC]] ==[/td] [td][/td] [td]Hi again! I wanted to let you know that I have declined your [[WP:A7|A7 speedy deletion]] nomination of [[Glory Goal FC]] because there is a credible claim to significance, which is a lower bar than notability. Additionally, as I {{Diff2|1306955080|warned you 11 days ago}}, you need to slow down when draftifying or nominating articles for deletion. Except in obvious cases (e.g., blatant vandalism), articles should not be nominated for speedy deletion if they are actively being edited. In practice, this means you should not nominate good faith articles for speedy deletion if they have been edited in the past hour. In this case, you nominated the article for A7 three minutes after the article was created, which can come across as extremely [[WP:BITE|bitey]]. '''Continuing to bite new editors may result in negative consequences'''. [[User:Significa liberdade|Significa liberdade (she/her)]] ([[User talk:Significa liberdade|talk]]) 16:30, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td][/td] [td]

[[User:Significa liberdade|Significa liberdade]] what do I do instead so I don't {{tq|"'''Continuing to bite new editors may result in negative consequences'''."}} Draftify it? ~[[User:Rafaelthegreat|'''''Rafael''''']] '''{{tq|(He, him) • [[User talk:Rafaelthegreat|Talk]] • [[User:Rafaelthegreat/Guestbook|Guestbook]] • [[User:Rafaelthegreat/projects|Projects]]}}''' 16:55, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]::Wait at least 60 minutes. If the article looked exactly the same after at least an hour--without any active editing--I would suggest moving to draft. A big thing is that you need to make sure you are checking the page history before draftifying or nominating for deletion. Make sure the article hasn't been vandalized (e.g., blanking), and that it isn't actively being editing. [[User:Significa liberdade|Significa liberdade (she/her)]] ([[User talk:Significa liberdade|talk]]) 16:59, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]:::There's no harm in waiting at least 24 hours. Why not? What's the rush? If that's too long to wait, then reach out and leave a nice message on the other editor's page with your concerns. New page patrol is not a video game -- there are real people with feelings on the other end.[/td] [td]:::--[[User:A. B.|A. B.]] ([[User talk:A. B.|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/A. B.|contribs]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/A._B.|global count]]) 23:05, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]::::Oh, for sure! 60 minutes should be the absolute minimum. However, I'll note that I don't think Rafael is part of NPP. He's just eager to help. [[User:Significa liberdade|Significa liberdade (she/her)]] ([[User talk:Significa liberdade|talk]]) 02:32, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]::::: Just realized I missed a word there. Rafael is ''not'' part of NPP. [[User:Significa liberdade|Significa liberdade (she/her)]] ([[User talk:Significa liberdade|talk]]) 00:55, 3 September 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]:::::

[[User:Significa liberdade|Significa liberdade]] planning on being on soon! ~[[User:Rafaelthegreat|'''''Rafael''''']] (He, him) • [[User talk:Rafaelthegreat|talk]] • [[User:Rafaelthegreat/Guestbook|guestbook]] • [[User:Rafaelthegreat/projects|projects]] 23:16, 3 September 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]::::

[[User:Significa liberdade|Significa liberdade]] yeah I got confused when you did that because other admins like BusterD delete them when I request it quickly. ~[[User:Rafaelthegreat|'''''Rafael''''']] (He, him) • [[User talk:Rafaelthegreat|talk]] • [[User:Rafaelthegreat/Guestbook|guestbook]] • [[User:Rafaelthegreat/projects|projects]] 23:56, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]::::::I understand how that could be confusing. However, the SD policy explicitly states, {{tq|Contributors sometimes create pages over several edits, so administrators should avoid deleting a page that appears incomplete too soon after its creation.}}. Having other administrators delete recently created articles does not mean that their actions fall within policy nor that they're following best practice against biting newbies. [[User:Significa liberdade|Significa liberdade (she/her)]] ([[User talk:Significa liberdade|talk]]) 00:52, 3 September 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]:::::::Courtesy ping to {{u|BusterD}}. [[User:Significa liberdade|Significa liberdade (she/her)]] ([[User talk:Significa liberdade|talk]]) 00:52, 3 September 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]:::

[[User:A. B.|A. B.]] sorry I did not mean to be uncivil ~[[User:Rafaelthegreat|'''''Rafael''''']] (He, him) • [[User talk:Rafaelthegreat|talk]] • [[User:Rafaelthegreat/Guestbook|guestbook]] • [[User:Rafaelthegreat/projects|projects]] 22:13, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]== Signature problems ==[/td] [td][/td] [td]Your signature at [[User:Rafaelthegreat/sign]] was causing problems, including [[WP:SIG#NoTemplates]] and [[WP:SIGLENGTH]]. I have fixed it for you. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 17:18, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]== August 2025 ==[/td] [td][/td] [td][[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Welcome to Wikipedia. Editors are expected to treat each other with respect and civility. On this encyclopedia project, editors [[Wikipedia:Assume good faith|assume good faith]] while interacting with other editors, which you did not appear to do at [[:Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Yaron_Benyamini]]. Here is Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome to Wikipedia|welcome page]], and it is hoped that you will assume the good faith of other editors and continue to help us improve Wikipedia![/td] [td][/td] [td]''This: {{tq|Unsourced AI slop; on a WP:BEFORE search, nothing appeared in my eyes. SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE ON WIKIPEDIA.}} is not an appropriate way to craft a nomination commentary. AfD is already fraught with tension at times and calling another editor's work "slop" and then yelling at them [[WP:YELL]] in bold face all caps is not a civil way of participating at AFD, or anywhere really. I have also noticed that you have on occasion bludgeoned discussions at AfD's. If possible, please try to interact with more maturity and politeness.'' [[User:Netherzone|Netherzone]] ([[User talk:Netherzone|talk]]) 20:08, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td][/td] [td]:+1 to Natherzone's comment above, this AfD nomination is uncivil at best, and your interaction equally [[WP:BITE|bitey]]. Clearly this article creator doesn't know what they're doing wrong, so please assume some good faith and guide them towards policy. Right now it is clear they're trying to recuse this article, and they falsely believe that more effort will produce better outcomes. However, it is not the number of references that makes the difference, as we can have a stub article with three good references be notable. [[User:Tiggerjay|<span style='color

arkOrange'>'''Tigger''''''Jay''']] [[User talk:Tiggerjay|<span style="font-size:85%;color

urple">(talk)]] 20:35, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td][/td] [td]::'''{{tq|"SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE ON WIKIPEDIA"}}''' is kind of mean, don't you think? How would this make you feel? Please try to be a little kinder; I know you can be quite good at that.--[[User:A. B.|A. B.]] ([[User talk:A. B.|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/A. B.|contribs]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/A._B.|global count]]) 23:08, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]:I am going to—politely but firmly—ask you to, at the very least, remove the big, bold, all-uppercase formatting from your message at the AFD. Ideally you would strike the line entirely while also removing the formatting, but one step at a time. This is the second thread on your talk page about biting newbies in less than 24 hours{{hair space}}; if this continues to be a pattern you will be [[WP:BLOCK|blocked]].{{pb}}{{yo|GoldRomean}} I assume you are already a {{tps}}, but just in case you are not: as Rafael's adopter, I think some WP:BITE... training? review? is in order. Best, [[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contribs/HouseBlaster|'''Blaster''']] ([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]] • he/they) 23:52, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]:And this is not very civil either: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.ph...ne_S._Layton&diff=1308294134&oldid=1308286130]. Why would you want to disrespect a fellow editors work so harshly, and imply it's bullshit? Or trash?[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.ph...Daniel_Brown&diff=1307811065&oldid=1307804695]. Editors are actual human beings. You are very new and inexperienced Rafael, and you are not off to a good start in the AfD arena. These kinds of comments at AfD are not constructive, nor are they instructive. Civility is not optional. Rudeness or insults not only distract and interfere with the AfD process, they can be harmful to the morale of other contributors. Please stop. [[User:Netherzone|Netherzone]] ([[User talk:Netherzone|talk]]) 02:05, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td][/td] [td]== Closing and re-listing AfDs ==[/td] [td][/td] [td]Hi there, I have noticed your presence at AfD, and appreciate your efforts there, but please refrain from closing or re-listing AfDs you have nominated (or voiced an opinion on) per the community expectations at [[WP:NACINV]]. Thank you, [[User:Left guide|Left guide]] ([[User talk:Left guide|talk]]) 00:46, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]:Hello, Rafaelthegreat,[/td] [td]:Not only should you not be relisting these AFD discussions you started, you relisted them after only 3 days. Discussions shouldn't be relisted until at least 7 days have passed. Relisting them too early just creates confusion for the discussion participants and any editor who takes on closing the discussion. Please observe these guidelines in the future. Thank you. <span style="font-family

apyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]] [[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']] 01:44, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]:

[[User:Liz|Liz]] someone named JoelleJay told me that before you did. ~[[User:Rafaelthegreat|'''''Rafael''''']] (He, him) • [[User talk:Rafaelthegreat|talk]] • [[User:Rafaelthegreat/Guestbook|guestbook]] • [[User:Rafaelthegreat/projects|projects]] 23:13, 3 September 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]

[[User:Left guide|Left guide]] someone told me that already... ~[[User:Rafaelthegreat|'''''Rafael''''']] (He, him) • [[User talk:Rafaelthegreat|talk]] • [[User:Rafaelthegreat/Guestbook|guestbook]] • [[User:Rafaelthegreat/projects|projects]] 23:54, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td][/td] [td]== Your AfD was pretty [[WP:BITE|bitey]] ==[/td] [td][/td] [td]You were correct to put [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yaron Benyamini]] up for AfD, but the way you did it was pretty hostile towards a new editor. It seems very possible that they might not have used AI, and the bolded and all-caps part of the nomination was unnecessary. While nominating was the correct choice, doing so with such extreme statements could scare off a potential new editor, who could be instead taught how to contribute helpfully. – [[User:Ike Lek|Ike Lek]] ([[User talk:Ike Lek|talk]]) 02:28, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td][/td] [td]

[[User:Ike Lek|Ike Lek]] - see a few sections up for a thread already ongoing about this specific AfD, you might want to simply refactor your comment up there. [[User:Tiggerjay|<span style='color

arkOrange'>'''Tigger''''''Jay''']] [[User talk:Tiggerjay|<span style="font-size:85%;color

urple">(talk)]] 04:37, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]::If I had seen that, I probably wouldn't have left this comment, as I don't want to pile on if it is already being addressed. I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean by "refactor". [[User:Ike Lek|Ike Lek]] ([[User talk:Ike Lek|talk]]) 04:44, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td][/td] [td]== Civility training ==[/td] [td][/td] [td]Hi Rafael! As you've probably noticed, although I'm glad you're participating in Wikipedia processes like AfD, it's important to maintain civil in such discussions. After, all, you're talking to real people, too! Thus, it's not okay to write things like "'''SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE ON WIKIPEDIA.'''" How would you feel if someone wrote that on a AfD on a page that you created?[/td] [td][/td] [td]As a result, I've created [[User:GoldRomean/Adopt/Rafaelthegreat/Civility]], which I'd like for you to take a look at as a high priority. I recommend not commenting on or nominating AfDs until you finish this, and I hope that it might help you gain some more experience in being civil.[/td] [td][/td] [td]Again, I'm still your adopter and here to help if you have any questions on anything

.[/td] [td][/td] [td]Best, [[User:GoldRomean|GoldRomean]] ([[User talk:GoldRomean|talk]]) 04:53, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td][/td] [td]:Hi, I noticed you went through and removed a lot of it. Kudos for doing that

. [[User:GoldRomean|GoldRomean]] ([[User talk:GoldRomean|talk]]) 01:54, 3 September 2025 (UTC)[/td] [td]:

k. ~[[User:Rafaelthegreat|'''''Rafael''''']] (He, him) • [[User talk:Rafaelthegreat|talk]] • [[User:Rafaelthegreat/Guestbook|guestbook]] • [[User:Rafaelthegreat/projects|projects]] 23:18, 3 September 2025 (UTC)[/td]