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Every time I post I get a million questions. So here are a million answers.
I've been doing PE since 2018 I've had many many routines
So there are some things which I know, and some things that I suspect but cannot prove, and some things which remain a total mystery.
I'd like to give some general advice to noobs. Don't fixated on designing the perfect routine. You are much better off focusing on experimenting with and improving your techniques. Small differences can create big effects with PE, and every body is different.
I could write a post at least as long as this one with every detail about pumping or clamping that I use to judge what I am doing, and that experience takes time and focus to accumulate. Everyone needs to do that for themselves eventually, and that's a much better thing to focus on than "routine"... let your routine be an output of your technique, not the other way around.
On with the show:
Length - This one I am most confident about. I did clamping and pumping only for years and made sweet fuck all length gains. I eventually bought a vac cup for hanging, and gained an inch in BPL in 6 months.
Flaccid hang - Same as above, I made very little improvement in flaccid hang from just pumping and clamping. Of course, on a day that you pump, you can have a good hang for hours afterwards... but after a rest, it is gone. Since bringing in dedicated length work, flaccid hang has taken off.
Vascularity - Before I added clamping, I was doing pumping only... After adding clamping, I noticed big gains in vascularity.
Girth - I have made good girth gains with pumping and clamping, and yet, I don't feel like I quite understand girth gains yet. If you're prepared to do the slow slog for years, then pumping and clamping will definitely do something, but I suspect that there must be a better way.
Pumping - I have 3 different size pump tubes, and I have a water trap for water pumping as well. I've had a bathmate in the past as well... I think I've tried most of what can be done with a pump. I think pumping is probably the best overall activity for penis health, but it has some weaknesses that other techniques should supplement. Straight sets, intervals, "length pumping"... all are worthwhile to use in different contexts.
Clamping - I've done both hard clamping and soft clamping, and what BD has called expansive and hypoxic clamping. In the end I have settled on a technique which is neither of the above, and which uses two cable cuff clamps. Clamping is the best for vascularity and EQ, and can be used to train the pelvic floor muscles in a unique way.
Hanging - I use a vac cup and sleeve that I bought off AliExpress, and I have used that with both hanging weights and a belt as an all-day stretcher. I think this is basically irreplacable for flaccid hang and erect length gains.
My current "routine"
I am using the big 3 techniques above daily... and I absolutely would not recommend what I am doing for a beginner. There's no chance your conditioning would hold up, you would get an injury for sure.
Pumping - I do a single 10 minute straight set in the morning. I use C rings so that once I get neg pressure into the tube, it becomes hypoxic. I mean deep purple by the end of the 10 minutes. I think this is going to help with gaining girth specifically, but it's an experiment.
Clamping - I do clamping before hanging in the evening, I find that it helps with maintaining really good pelvic floor health and EQ. I do it for about 10 minutes with stimulation.
Hanging - I do 15 minutes of weighted hanging, followed by a couple hours with the ADS. I pyramid the weights, doing 2.5kg for 5 minutes to warm up, 5kg for 5 minutes as the main stimulus, and then back down to 2.5kg to hold the stretch.
If I was starting again today, I'd work up to a variation of the above with the following changes:
Pumping - 2x 5 minute sets, with about a minute rest in between... no C rings.
Clamping - while clamping, periodically loosen and retighten the clamps to refresh the blood
Hanging - Just use less weight
Supplements...
I made my best length gains while taking 30g collagen daily + 500mg of vitamin C twice daily. Make of that what you will.
Citruline Malate can definitely help with clamping sessions in particular, but I don't think is necessary for pumping or hanging
Beetroot juice/nitrates are weird... I think they theoretically should be synergistic with citruline malate, but based on my practical experience I think beetroot juice is anti-synergistic. My guess would be that the two supplements have different effects on veinous versus arterial endothelial activity. In any event, I don't bother with beetroot juice any more after trying it several times.
Daily Cialis 5mg - I've taken this in and out a few times... I am not convinced that it is a game changer. I made great progress without it, but I am about to add it back in.
That's all folks.
If you're a vet, I hope you don't take any of this personally... I totally respect anyone who's been doing this for years, and I am interested to hear how your experience differs.
If you're a noob, I will answer questions on this post even in the future... but please don't DM me, I get so many and I have a life.
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I've been doing PE since 2018 I've had many many routines
So there are some things which I know, and some things that I suspect but cannot prove, and some things which remain a total mystery.
I'd like to give some general advice to noobs. Don't fixated on designing the perfect routine. You are much better off focusing on experimenting with and improving your techniques. Small differences can create big effects with PE, and every body is different.
I could write a post at least as long as this one with every detail about pumping or clamping that I use to judge what I am doing, and that experience takes time and focus to accumulate. Everyone needs to do that for themselves eventually, and that's a much better thing to focus on than "routine"... let your routine be an output of your technique, not the other way around.
On with the show:
Length - This one I am most confident about. I did clamping and pumping only for years and made sweet fuck all length gains. I eventually bought a vac cup for hanging, and gained an inch in BPL in 6 months.
Flaccid hang - Same as above, I made very little improvement in flaccid hang from just pumping and clamping. Of course, on a day that you pump, you can have a good hang for hours afterwards... but after a rest, it is gone. Since bringing in dedicated length work, flaccid hang has taken off.
Vascularity - Before I added clamping, I was doing pumping only... After adding clamping, I noticed big gains in vascularity.
Girth - I have made good girth gains with pumping and clamping, and yet, I don't feel like I quite understand girth gains yet. If you're prepared to do the slow slog for years, then pumping and clamping will definitely do something, but I suspect that there must be a better way.
Pumping - I have 3 different size pump tubes, and I have a water trap for water pumping as well. I've had a bathmate in the past as well... I think I've tried most of what can be done with a pump. I think pumping is probably the best overall activity for penis health, but it has some weaknesses that other techniques should supplement. Straight sets, intervals, "length pumping"... all are worthwhile to use in different contexts.
Clamping - I've done both hard clamping and soft clamping, and what BD has called expansive and hypoxic clamping. In the end I have settled on a technique which is neither of the above, and which uses two cable cuff clamps. Clamping is the best for vascularity and EQ, and can be used to train the pelvic floor muscles in a unique way.
Hanging - I use a vac cup and sleeve that I bought off AliExpress, and I have used that with both hanging weights and a belt as an all-day stretcher. I think this is basically irreplacable for flaccid hang and erect length gains.
My current "routine"
I am using the big 3 techniques above daily... and I absolutely would not recommend what I am doing for a beginner. There's no chance your conditioning would hold up, you would get an injury for sure.
Pumping - I do a single 10 minute straight set in the morning. I use C rings so that once I get neg pressure into the tube, it becomes hypoxic. I mean deep purple by the end of the 10 minutes. I think this is going to help with gaining girth specifically, but it's an experiment.
Clamping - I do clamping before hanging in the evening, I find that it helps with maintaining really good pelvic floor health and EQ. I do it for about 10 minutes with stimulation.
Hanging - I do 15 minutes of weighted hanging, followed by a couple hours with the ADS. I pyramid the weights, doing 2.5kg for 5 minutes to warm up, 5kg for 5 minutes as the main stimulus, and then back down to 2.5kg to hold the stretch.
If I was starting again today, I'd work up to a variation of the above with the following changes:
Pumping - 2x 5 minute sets, with about a minute rest in between... no C rings.
Clamping - while clamping, periodically loosen and retighten the clamps to refresh the blood
Hanging - Just use less weight
Supplements...
I made my best length gains while taking 30g collagen daily + 500mg of vitamin C twice daily. Make of that what you will.
Citruline Malate can definitely help with clamping sessions in particular, but I don't think is necessary for pumping or hanging
Beetroot juice/nitrates are weird... I think they theoretically should be synergistic with citruline malate, but based on my practical experience I think beetroot juice is anti-synergistic. My guess would be that the two supplements have different effects on veinous versus arterial endothelial activity. In any event, I don't bother with beetroot juice any more after trying it several times.
Daily Cialis 5mg - I've taken this in and out a few times... I am not convinced that it is a game changer. I made great progress without it, but I am about to add it back in.
That's all folks.
If you're a vet, I hope you don't take any of this personally... I totally respect anyone who's been doing this for years, and I am interested to hear how your experience differs.
If you're a noob, I will answer questions on this post even in the future... but please don't DM me, I get so many and I have a life.
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