Talk:Plato

::::@[[User talk:Remsense]] Thank you for asking. I did not want to jump on the train as several other editors were actively working (mostly reducing) on the article, but felt compelled to add it here just in case this is helpful. I trust that the other editors have a better idea than me on how the article should look like. But as you may have guessed, I found some edits problematic, e.g., [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Plato&diff=1290605894&oldid=1290605541]... I think Popper's comments about Plato are rather significant since philosophers to this day still try to refute the central argument, but still comes back again and again. This means that Popper's and Whitehead's comments while from a perspective controversial (so need to carefully stated), I think they are essential in the narrative of how Plato's work echoed to philosophers through centuries whether in a positive way or in a negative way ([[Cornelius_Castoriadis|Castoriadis]] has an interesting analysis in his book [[https://www.sup.org/books/theory-and-philosophy/platos-statesman]] ). Unfortunately, I do not have the time (as I need to go through the sources to read or re-read them carefully) and I am entangled on other articles at the moment to contribute in any meaningful way here. So please you and other editors do what you think it is best for the article. If my comments are helpful use them otherwise ignore them. [[User:A.Cython|A.Cython]] ([[User talk:A.Cython|talk]]) 21:14, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

::::@[[User talk:Remsense]] Thank you for asking. I did not want to jump on the train as several other editors were actively working (mostly reducing) on the article, but felt compelled to add it here just in case this is helpful. I trust that the other editors have a better idea than me on how the article should look like. But as you may have guessed, I found some edits problematic, e.g., [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Plato&diff=1290605894&oldid=1290605541]... I think Popper's comments about Plato are rather significant since philosophers to this day still try to refute the central argument, but still comes back again and again. This means that Popper's and Whitehead's comments while from a perspective controversial (so need to carefully stated), I think they are essential in the narrative of how Plato's work echoed to philosophers through centuries whether in a positive way or in a negative way ([[Cornelius_Castoriadis|Castoriadis]] has an interesting analysis in his book [[https://www.sup.org/books/theory-and-philosophy/platos-statesman]] ). Unfortunately, I do not have the time (as I need to go through the sources to read or re-read them carefully) and I am entangled on other articles at the moment to contribute in any meaningful way here. So please you and other editors do what you think it is best for the article. If my comments are helpful use them otherwise ignore them. [[User:A.Cython|A.Cython]] ([[User talk:A.Cython|talk]]) 21:14, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

:::::Very helpful to have on the record in any case, thank you very much! <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">[[User:Remsense|<span style="color:#fff">'''Remsense'''</span>]]<span style="color:#fff">&nbsp;🌈&nbsp;</span>[[User talk:Remsense|<span lang="zh" style="color:#fff">'''论'''</span>]]</span> 21:23, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

== "it's a common misconception that Nietzsche objected to Plato, what he actually was objecting to was socrates" ==

== "it's a common misconception that Nietzsche objected to Plato, what he actually was objecting to was socrates" ==