Talk:Gun control in the Soviet Union

For example, in 12th day of June 1918 the [[Imperial German Army|Deutsches Heer]] military commandant in the city of [[Kiev]] ordered the posting of posters with the text of his order: "''I am aware that the population is hiding weapons. All weapons permits issued by any authorities are hereby revoked, and the population must immediately surrender all weapons, including all machineguns, rifles, hunting shotguns, revolvers, pistols, sabres, daggers, explosives, hand grenades and ammunition. They must be surrendered before 12:00 noon on June 22, 1918. Only the German authorities issue new permits for possession of weapons. Anyone who possesses a weapon after 12:00 noon on June 22, 1918 will be arrested and imprisoned for at least five months inside the prison, and the punishment for any other illegal actions involving weapons will be much more severe.''"<ref>"''Вчера по Кіеву было расклеено слѣдующее обявленіе от имени германской комендатуры: ... все еще спрятано и не сдано много оружія. Всякаго рода оружіе, как-то; винтовки, охотничьи ружья, револьверы, пистолеты, [[Shashka|шашки]], [[Sabre|сабли]] и [[Dirk|кортики]], а также и [[Machine gun|пулеметы]], патроны, [[Hand grenade|ручныя гранаты]] и взрывчатыя вещества должны быть сданы до 12 часов дня 22-го іюня по пов. ст. Всѣ до сего времени выданныя разрѣшенія на право ношенія оружія недѣйствительны. За полученіем новых разрѣшеній кадлежит обращатьси в германскую комендатуру. Tѣ у кого послѣ двѣнадцати часов дня 22-го іюня еще будет найдено оружіе без особаго на то разрѣшенія, подлежат наказанію заключеніем в арестантскія отдѣленія, или же, в менѣе важных случаях, содержанію в тюрьмѣ на срок не менѣе 5-ти мѣсяцев и в том только случаѣ, если по другим существующим законам не предусматривается большая кара.''"<br/>СДАЧА ОРУЖІЯ // газета "Известия", № 120 от 13 июня 1918 стр.4</ref> Please note the language in which this article is written. It was published in an official newspaper of the Soviet government in accordance with the rules of the old language (official Russian language of Russian Empire), which was officially abolished on January 1, 1918. Do you see old letters in the text of this article? That's why using a computer search is useless. Next, try to remember how often you come across references about the confiscation of weapons from the local population and the killing of the local population for possessing weapons by the Central Powers and the Entente military forces during the civil war.

For example, in 12th day of June 1918 the [[Imperial German Army|Deutsches Heer]] military commandant in the city of [[Kiev]] ordered the posting of posters with the text of his order: "''I am aware that the population is hiding weapons. All weapons permits issued by any authorities are hereby revoked, and the population must immediately surrender all weapons, including all machineguns, rifles, hunting shotguns, revolvers, pistols, sabres, daggers, explosives, hand grenades and ammunition. They must be surrendered before 12:00 noon on June 22, 1918. Only the German authorities issue new permits for possession of weapons. Anyone who possesses a weapon after 12:00 noon on June 22, 1918 will be arrested and imprisoned for at least five months inside the prison, and the punishment for any other illegal actions involving weapons will be much more severe.''"<ref>"''Вчера по Кіеву было расклеено слѣдующее обявленіе от имени германской комендатуры: ... все еще спрятано и не сдано много оружія. Всякаго рода оружіе, как-то; винтовки, охотничьи ружья, револьверы, пистолеты, [[Shashka|шашки]], [[Sabre|сабли]] и [[Dirk|кортики]], а также и [[Machine gun|пулеметы]], патроны, [[Hand grenade|ручныя гранаты]] и взрывчатыя вещества должны быть сданы до 12 часов дня 22-го іюня по пов. ст. Всѣ до сего времени выданныя разрѣшенія на право ношенія оружія недѣйствительны. За полученіем новых разрѣшеній кадлежит обращатьси в германскую комендатуру. Tѣ у кого послѣ двѣнадцати часов дня 22-го іюня еще будет найдено оружіе без особаго на то разрѣшенія, подлежат наказанію заключеніем в арестантскія отдѣленія, или же, в менѣе важных случаях, содержанію в тюрьмѣ на срок не менѣе 5-ти мѣсяцев и в том только случаѣ, если по другим существующим законам не предусматривается большая кара.''"<br/>СДАЧА ОРУЖІЯ // газета "Известия", № 120 от 13 июня 1918 стр.4</ref> Please note the language in which this article is written. It was published in an official newspaper of the Soviet government in accordance with the rules of the old language (official Russian language of Russian Empire), which was officially abolished on January 1, 1918. Do you see old letters in the text of this article? That's why using a computer search is useless. Next, try to remember how often you come across references about the confiscation of weapons from the local population and the killing of the local population for possessing weapons by the Central Powers and the Entente military forces during the civil war.

The next problem, which is often overlooked, is understanding the terminology that was used at different times. The same word could have different meanings in different legal contexts. For example, in the very first advertisements that were published in newspapers of the Russian Empire before the outbreak of World War I in 1914, the self-loading hunting shotgun [[Browning Auto-5]] was sold as "a Browning automatic hunting shotgun" ("автоматическое ружье Браунинга"). Later, in the 1920s-1941 and later, in 1945-1991, there was a long-lasting dispute between Interior Ministry experts about how long a non-standard self-made homemade "knife" could be before it turned into an "sword" or "saber" (''In the USSR, it was completely legal to hunt with hunting knives, but sooner or later, one of the hunters would make a VERY BIG knife, bring it to the hunt, start boasting, or drink too much, and then the forester or another person would take this knife away... and after the end of this incident they would start writing complaints and statements to the prosecutor's office against each other''). [[User:Shadowcaster|Shadowcaster]] ([[User talk:Shadowcaster|talk]]) 06:46, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

The next problem, which is often overlooked, is understanding the terminology that was used at different times. The same word could have different meanings in different legal contexts. For example, in the very first advertisements that were published in newspapers of the Russian Empire before the outbreak of World War I in 1914, the semi-automatic hunting shotgun [[Browning Auto-5]] was referred to as "a Browning automatic hunting shotgun" ("автоматическое ружьё Браунинга"). In the USSR this shotgun was sold as "self-loading Browning shotgun" ("самозарядное ружьё Браунинга"). Also, in the 1920s-1941 and later, in 1945-1991, there was a long-lasting dispute between Interior Ministry experts about how long a non-standard self-made homemade "knife" could be before it turned into an "sword" or "saber" (''In the USSR, it was completely legal to hunt with hunting knives, but sooner or later, one of the hunters would make a VERY BIG knife, bring it to the hunt, start boasting, or drink too much, and then the forester or another person would take this knife away... and after the end of this incident they would start writing complaints and statements to the prosecutor's office against each other''). [[User:Shadowcaster|Shadowcaster]] ([[User talk:Shadowcaster|talk]]) 06:46, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

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