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Politics and activism: From same source. Vylan feud goes back at least to 2020

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Idles have been described as a "post-Brexit" political rock band.<ref>{{Cite news |last=Beaumont |first=Mark |date=2017-04-06 |title=Post-Brexit punk and austerity anthems - 2017's political rock resurgence |url=https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2017/apr/06/post-brexit-punk-austerity-anthems-2017-political-rock-resurgence |access-date=2024-12-03 |work=The Guardian|issn=0261-3077}}</ref> Their songs include political messages on a diverse range of topics including feminism, mass media and immigration. British newspaper ''[[The Guardian]]'' wrote in 2024 that "the subjects the band sparred with along the way ranged from [[white privilege]] to [[Brexit]] to [[immigration]] to [[Social class|class]], with a special wallop reserved for the crueler aspects of traditional [[masculinity]]".<ref>{{Cite news |last=Farber |first=Jim |date=2024-02-13 |title=The return of Idles: 'I don't have to hide behind violence any more' |url=https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/feb/13/idles-band-interview-new-album-tangk |access-date=2024-12-03 |work=The Guardian|issn=0261-3077}}</ref>
Idles have been described as a "post-Brexit" political rock band.<ref>{{Cite news |last=Beaumont |first=Mark |date=2017-04-06 |title=Post-Brexit punk and austerity anthems - 2017's political rock resurgence |url=https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2017/apr/06/post-brexit-punk-austerity-anthems-2017-political-rock-resurgence |access-date=2024-12-03 |work=The Guardian|issn=0261-3077}}</ref> Their songs include political messages on a diverse range of topics including feminism, mass media and immigration. British newspaper ''[[The Guardian]]'' wrote in 2024 that "the subjects the band sparred with along the way ranged from [[white privilege]] to [[Brexit]] to [[immigration]] to [[Social class|class]], with a special wallop reserved for the crueler aspects of traditional [[masculinity]]".<ref>{{Cite news |last=Farber |first=Jim |date=2024-02-13 |title=The return of Idles: 'I don't have to hide behind violence any more' |url=https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/feb/13/idles-band-interview-new-album-tangk |access-date=2024-12-03 |work=The Guardian|issn=0261-3077}}</ref>


In June 2020, English punk duo [[Bob Vylan]] accused Idles of neglecting to comment on the [[murder of George Floyd]], and alleged that this was for commercial reasons. Idles responded by saying that they took time to comment on the murder of Floyd because "There was a lot of [[Virtue signalling|virtue-signalling]] and we wanted to make sure that anything we contributed was going to be [helpful]".<ref name=vylan/>
In November 2023, just over a month after the beginning of the [[Gaza War (2023-present)|Israel-Hamas war in Gaza]], English punk-duo [[Bob Vylan]] criticised Idles as well as English punk-duo [[Sleaford Mods]] for not speaking about the [[Palestinian nationalism|Palestinian cause]], saying at a concert in [[Dublin]] "How the fuck can you call yourself a political left-wing band if you are not fucking speaking up for people that have no voice at the moment? It’s a cowardly fucking thing".<ref>{{Cite web |last=Dunworth |first=Liberty |date=2023-11-10 |title=Bob Vylan call out "cowardly" Sleaford Mods and IDLES for not speaking out on Palestine |url=https://www.nme.com/news/music/bob-vylan-call-out-cowardly-sleaford-mods-and-idles-for-not-speaking-out-on-palestine-3536053 |access-date=2024-12-03 |website=NME}}</ref> Subsequently, Joe Talbot voiced support for Palestine at the launch show for the album ''Tangk'', by changing lyrics to include references to [[Palestine]], with guitarist Mark Bowen also leading chants of "[[ceasefire]] now".<ref>{{Cite web |last=Trendell |first=Andrew |date=2024-02-17 |title=Idles show solidarity with Palestine at 'Tangk' launch show in Brixton |url=https://www.nme.com/news/music/idles-show-solidarity-with-palestine-at-tangk-launch-show-in-brixton-3588996 |access-date=2024-12-03 |website=NME }}</ref> Since then, the band have continuously spoken about the topic, including during their set at the 2024 [[Glastonbury Festival]].<ref>{{Cite web |date=2024-06-28 |title=Glastonbury 2024: Idles dedicate song to "people of Palestine" |url=https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/glastonbury-2024-idles-declare-support-for-the-people-of-palestine/ |access-date=2024-12-03 |website=faroutmagazine.co.uk}}</ref><ref>https://www.undertheradarmag.com/reviews/glastonbury_festival_2024_worthy_farm_pilton_somerset_uk_june_26_30_2024</ref>

In November 2023, just over a month after the beginning of the [[Gaza War (2023-present)|Israel-Hamas war in Gaza]], Bob Vylan criticised Idles as well as English punk-duo [[Sleaford Mods]] for not speaking about the [[Palestinian nationalism|Palestinian cause]], saying at a concert in [[Dublin]] "How the fuck can you call yourself a political left-wing band if you are not fucking speaking up for people that have no voice at the moment? It’s a cowardly fucking thing".<ref name=vylan>{{Cite web |last=Dunworth |first=Liberty |date=2023-11-10 |title=Bob Vylan call out "cowardly" Sleaford Mods and IDLES for not speaking out on Palestine |url=https://www.nme.com/news/music/bob-vylan-call-out-cowardly-sleaford-mods-and-idles-for-not-speaking-out-on-palestine-3536053 |access-date=2024-12-03 |website=NME}}</ref> Subsequently, Joe Talbot voiced support for Palestine at the launch show for the album ''Tangk'', by changing lyrics to include references to [[Palestine]], with guitarist Mark Bowen also leading chants of "[[ceasefire]] now".<ref>{{Cite web |last=Trendell |first=Andrew |date=2024-02-17 |title=Idles show solidarity with Palestine at 'Tangk' launch show in Brixton |url=https://www.nme.com/news/music/idles-show-solidarity-with-palestine-at-tangk-launch-show-in-brixton-3588996 |access-date=2024-12-03 |website=NME }}</ref> Since then, the band have continuously spoken about the topic, including during their set at the 2024 [[Glastonbury Festival]].<ref>{{Cite web |date=2024-06-28 |title=Glastonbury 2024: Idles dedicate song to "people of Palestine" |url=https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/glastonbury-2024-idles-declare-support-for-the-people-of-palestine/ |access-date=2024-12-03 |website=faroutmagazine.co.uk}}</ref><ref>https://www.undertheradarmag.com/reviews/glastonbury_festival_2024_worthy_farm_pilton_somerset_uk_june_26_30_2024</ref>


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